Tell us a little bit about yourselves.

DAN: We are a married couple from England (Dan) and Texas (Jennifer), we make music together under the impossible to Google name “The Know”.   I’d been making music in England with bands of varying genres and quality for a little while.

JENNIFER: I have no real background or training as a musician or vocalist, it’s just something that I dreamed of someday doing if I could get over my fear. I moved to Los Angeles for acting (which I never pursued) when I was younger and they made us take vocal classes and it legitimately used to give me panic attacks. Now, years later, I mustered up the courage to give it a go again. Luckily, I have a super talented husband who guided me and made me feel comfortable or I’m not sure that I would have had the confidence to do it.

How did you two start making music together?

DAN: We had barely seen each other for the last few months of 2018 and we had talked about one day trying to make an EP together so, for Christmas, we skipped all the usual trips to see relatives and just recorded together in our spare room.

JENNIFER: I begged him!  (kidding kind of)

How would you describe your musical style?

DAN: I would like to say it’s hard to describe but it’s not.  It’s basically dream pop, lots of reverb, open tunings, guitars that sound like keyboards, keyboards that sound like guitars, children’s toys with even more reverb, distortion, distorted reverb, hushed vocals etc etc. 

What can you tell us about your latest single, “Hold Me Like You Know Me”?

DAN: That I had to record it twice because the first time it was in totally the wrong key for Jennifer to sing and, the self-centered musician that I am, it didn’t even occur to me to check.  Also that I had written the chorus chord change already, Jennifer had written the chorus lyrics and melody and we were both sitting on them separately for a while until we realized they fit together very nicely.  Once we had that breakthrough, the rest of it was easy.

Take us through the video for the song?

JENNIFER: The video deals with the central theme of the song which is loneliness and isolation. I’m not a huge fan of literal interpretations or being on camera so I steered clear of having me crying alone in a room while everyone was outside having fun! The song had a very danceable quality to me and dance is such a beautiful way to visually portray emotion so I immediately knew what I wanted to do. I wanted a sort of surrealist-like portrayal of feeling alone in a room full of people…….or maybe it’s all in her head? When the crescendo hits, it cuts back and forth from her being alone to being in a room full of people, and there’s also a bit of a surprise at the ending that we purposely left open for interpretation.

How was it having dancer Lexee Smith as the focal point of the video?

JENNIFER: Lexee is a good friend of mine and as soon as we wrote this song, I already knew I wanted her starring in the video, she’s such an incredible dancer and a natural in front of the camera. I’m a fairly private person so I wanted someone I knew and was comfortable discussing personal things with. When I discussed the concept with her, it’s something she connected with which I think was an important element. We have always talked about collaborating creatively but had never really had an opportunity. The timing happened to work out for this and her schedule allowed her to be a part of which I’m so grateful for. She really brought my vision to life with her performance.

What’s next for you two?

JENNIFER: The first 2 singles are out and the full EP is done is set to be released in the next few months. Meanwhile, we’re working on the live show & visuals, new songs for our full length, and assembling a team to work with.

What advice would you have for aspiring singers/songwriters?

DAN: That just doing it is important, the daily grind.  You are way better off recording something bad and then trying to understand why and either fixing it or gaining a better understanding of things for the next song than you are just sitting waiting for inspiration.  As you go through your day make notes in a notebook, write phrases you like down, ideas that you have, sing melodies in to your phone, collect little scraps here and there so that when the time comes to commit something you’re armed.  Then just push ideas, sounds and words together until you like what you hear.  And be prepared to fail many times…if you don’t fail then you didn’t push yourself far enough outside of your comfort zone.  Also, it’s no use making something amazing if no one ever hears it so get brave and play it to people and learn a little about how to promote yourself or find a friend who wants a piece of the action and is good at that stuff to do it for you.


JENNIFER: Be willing to hear NO, A LOT and don’t take it personally. Learn the business side of things if you want to take it seriously and make it your career. Have a plan. Network.  Be humble. Write every idea down and/or record them in your phone! 

What are your lives like outside of music?

DAN: I love movies too.  Beyond that, a lot of the time left is occupied by our two weird needy little dogs (they made appearances in the 143 video if you want to know what they look like)

JENNIFER: Fairly normal, whatever that means! We cook each other dinner, take our dogs to the park, spend time with family and friends. We love visiting themed hotels and have made it our mission to go to as many as possible, and we’ve been to a lot. Shout out to one of our favorites, Hicksville in Joshua Tree. I also own my own business so I’m lucky that I’m my own boss and my schedule allows me to have time for music which hopefully someday can be our full-time career #somedaymaybe 🙂

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